I raised the edges just enough to fit an LED rail on the rear side so that a single LED strip powered from the display board JST port can wrap around 360 degrees. The excellent original design was very clean and easy to modify for my needs!
The modified edge pieces are at https://makerworld.com/en/models/1006217
Printed this out and got it connected up. One of the first prints I did with my Bambu Labs X1C. Took some thermal image shots. Using a Noctua 120mm fan for PCs. Looks like it seals up well and focuses the hot and hopefully harmful gases out based on the high thermals at the vent.
Great design - really like this and your other ventilation designs too, thx for sharing. In your thru-wall video you reference a computer fan to allow for negative pressure - I realize this could have been for illustration purposes, but would you mind explaining your overall ventilation design? I plan on using an AC Infinity (4") and daisy chain hoses to my various printers (and small paint booth), but I am not sure how much negative pressure I should go for. Can you share your perspective?
For sure. I used a variable speed controller to adjust the fan speed In my case I had my exhaust connected to multiple machines. So my goal was to create the path of least resistance with the negative pressure. I didn’t want one machine pushing fumes into another machine. So by trial and error I adjusted the fan to always pull air from the system such that it was the path of least resistance. But not more because then you might be inadvertently cooling your print chamber(s). make Sense?
Yes, you are right, you must use the correct wall generator because the are very narrow walls. I did list that in the recommended settings but it is easy to miss. It is good to always use that setting unless you specifically don’t need it for a specific project. If you are still having trouble email me some pictures and your geode file to logicalplanet3d Gmail.com and i can try to help.
I used nGen filament on a P1S and can't get the fan cover to print correctly. When no support was used, the built-in support top didn't bridge well. Then, thinking it may be the filament, I tried using support with raft, and support with brim. The results were far worse. What may be going wrong?
I have been successful on this printer with other projects, including two of my designs. I'm new to Bambu Studio, so I may not have the settings correct for this print.
I have to ask again,because i tried 3 times and all of them was a fail.At the top of the included support the lines are going lengthwise and its just drops down and mess up everything.(i also apllied your settings in the description,im using petf hf with a p1s)
This seems amazing, however please help me understand:
Below you wrote that the chamber temperature can be increased by closing the exhause hose. But then the harmful particles can leak out, no? Can you explain briefly how to safely expel 100% of VOCs AND simultaneously having enough chamber temperature to print, for example, ABS and ASA?
What is the purpose of the additional vent on top of the machine? Will more airflow not decrease the chamber temperature further?
Hi, sorry for the slow response... Message lengths are restricted here so I will send a couple of replies with my comments for you. 1. Yes, you can restrict the outflow of air to retain more of the heat energy within the machine. Of course, if you do not let any air out, the VOCs will remain inside the machine.
But if you choose to do that, (to increase your chamber temperature) then VOCs trapped in the machine is concession to be made. However, a better approach is to use the variable flow valve to restrict the air out but not stop it. In a best case scenario you are venting out but with reduced volume to keep your chamber hot enough but still escaping the VOCs.
I developed the upper vent for several reasons... To vent out the accumulated heat at the top of the machine to allow PLA to be printed better with the door closed. To provide a mechanically strong mount so that I could attached the exhaust hose. And, lastly to give me the ability to remove more air than I felt was possible through the fan port.
I think (emphasis on think) it will work. But a modified frame is needed. I already modified the frame for a riser. I will dig that up and refresh my memory about it. Then let you know with a message back here.
Sorry to ask a stupid question but how to you move the air? Do you use the square fan you posted earlier at the end of the round hose? Sorry but I don’t understand: where to place a fan / which fan to use? I will be venting out of a window with the pipe “hanging” out the window when I need to print. I appreciate your kind response 👍
No need to apologize; it is a good question. I have had a difficult time documenting everything, so it can be hard to find the answers amongst all my postings. But the short answer is yes, I use the small square fan with the adapters that I made and posted here... https://than.gs/m/1206813
Check that out, and if you have questions, let me know. And, or if you need help creating a system for the window, we can explore that too. I am happy to try to help.
Hmmm, actually now I can not remember why I would have indicated ironing for these parts. It seems like a bad idea to me at the moment because of the extra time required. There are no critical surfaces that I can recall so perhaps I made a mistake indicating ironing. I would suggest ironing off unless you find a part that has an issue. But to answer your question, I usually use... ZigZag, 0.1mm spacing, 10% flow, 0.38mm inset, 26mm/s speed.
Thank you for sharing this. I'm just getting into 3D printing and starting looking for a ventilation system after making a few parts in ABS. I just wish the hose hook up came from the bottom, then it would be perfect for my situation. That will be a blender project after I get a bit better with it.
Will the fresh air coming in mess with the temps at all?
The machines always pull in fresh air from the room when they blow out the internal air. So nothing is really changing there. But yes, it can. So some people use my design to recirculate the air from the fan port back up to the vent on the frame. You can do this by installing my variable control valve on the exhaust hose which effectively can close the line and therefore the air coming out of the machine goes back into the machine. This can help to raise the internal temperature.
Hi, this looks like a great design but Im curious how it works with an AMS riser. I was going to print the popular AMS riser v2 but it might interfere with the top vent https://makerworld.com/en/models/133452
I'm a home user so I don't need a complete exhaust system like yours, but I really like that you draw air from the vent and the top. Havent seen any one else do that!
I love this design. I printed it up and tried it out with my AMS, but they are not compatible together. I suggest moving the closest portion of the manifold out an additional 10mm in order to provide the AMS clearance needed. 8mm would do it, but 10mm is ideal. The manifold angle seems perfect, so I wouldn't suggest creating the clearance by increasing the angle and making it come out more perpendicular. The best approach would be move the whole plane 10mm. I hope this helps. Thank you!
Just realizing that I miswrote my first comment. It is the AMS riser many people commonly use that is hitting it. Although maybe a riser is no longer needed for PLA now that it's properly vented?
Also...on second thought, I suggest 12mm of clearance if you do make a version that has clearance for the riser. That way you're 100% certain it's going to clear it. Here's an image to show the interaction. Thank you. https://imgur.com/a/BhRuzXY
Thank you so much for an excellent design. Also I was wondering what fan you would recommend to put inline for exhausting fumes and creating a negative pressure? Possibly the AC infinity series or something else?
I am using a "120mm 12VDC Axial Computer Fan with Speed Control; with 110VAC adapter", I purchased on Amazon.ca, here is the link... https://www.amazon.ca/gp/product/B097DDJHV6/
Honestly, I thought the speed control would be nice but it is not needed. It does not pull so much air that you need to slow it down and also I have variable control valves in my system so I can control the air flow. But nonetheless this fan works well.
Sorry to ask a stupid question but how are you using the square fan you linked to with a round exhaust pipe? I will hang the exhaust pipe out a window when I need to print so I’m not sure where to position a fan or which fan to use. Thanks in advance for your help clarifying this. :)
I printed the front right and left corners that are compatible with the AMS Riser V2, and noticed that although they are labeled P1S they are really only compatible with X1. The left side microSD is covered, and the air vent on the right side is raised, so the part is lifted. Looking at the top of an X1, this part looks perfect. Regardless, I love the work you have done.
Hi, thanks for the feedback. I designed it for someone else and do not use a riser but I have an X1C so i can fix those issues. Can you email me a few photos to logicalplanet3d gmail.com so that I can see what the issues are and be sure to fix them. Thank you.
Discussions — BambuLab X1 Series and P1S Exhaust Capture System (with LED support) ECS3
First huge thanks for the designs, these are amazing!
Just a heads up for anyone printing this version, the inbuilt support needs "detect thin walls" turned on.
Oh yes. Hank for pointing that out. That is for the fan cover. Much appreciated.
Printed this out and got it connected up. One of the first prints I did with my Bambu Labs X1C. Took some thermal image shots. Using a Noctua 120mm fan for PCs. Looks like it seals up well and focuses the hot and hopefully harmful gases out based on the high thermals at the vent.
https://imgur.com/a/rg6lRdT
Dude…. That is cool. I have no idea how to interpret the images but very cool. Nice work!
Hi! Where do you get your hoses from? I'm printing everything and was just curious.
I ordered them off Amazon. Probably not the best source depending where you are but convenient.
Great design - really like this and your other ventilation designs too, thx for sharing. In your thru-wall video you reference a computer fan to allow for negative pressure - I realize this could have been for illustration purposes, but would you mind explaining your overall ventilation design? I plan on using an AC Infinity (4") and daisy chain hoses to my various printers (and small paint booth), but I am not sure how much negative pressure I should go for. Can you share your perspective?
For sure. I used a variable speed controller to adjust the fan speed In my case I had my exhaust connected to multiple machines. So my goal was to create the path of least resistance with the negative pressure. I didn’t want one machine pushing fumes into another machine. So by trial and error I adjusted the fan to always pull air from the system such that it was the path of least resistance. But not more because then you might be inadvertently cooling your print chamber(s). make Sense?
Where can print files be found for the drop in LED bars?
Thank you so much for sharing your great design!
It is included in this download. The file so called LED Strip (print 3).stl.
Love it. Thankyou for all of the work and genius that went into creating this.
Upon further investigation, the built-in support structures aren't being printed. They show up in Preview as a dark area, but don't print.
After some looking around, I found that changing the Wall generator from Normal to Archane worked. Why? I don't know.
Yes, you are right, you must use the correct wall generator because the are very narrow walls. I did list that in the recommended settings but it is easy to miss. It is good to always use that setting unless you specifically don’t need it for a specific project. If you are still having trouble email me some pictures and your geode file to logicalplanet3d Gmail.com and i can try to help.
I used nGen filament on a P1S and can't get the fan cover to print correctly. When no support was used, the built-in support top didn't bridge well. Then, thinking it may be the filament, I tried using support with raft, and support with brim. The results were far worse. What may be going wrong?
I have been successful on this printer with other projects, including two of my designs. I'm new to Bambu Studio, so I may not have the settings correct for this print.
Is it necessary to add another fan or the printer built in fan is enough to push out the smokes?(i will use around 4m pipe)
It is really up to you how much you want the machine exhausted. It will definitely be better if you add a fan to assist the exhaust.
I have to ask again,because i tried 3 times and all of them was a fail.At the top of the included support the lines are going lengthwise and its just drops down and mess up everything.(i also apllied your settings in the description,im using petf hf with a p1s)
Hundreds of people have printed this successfully so there is something wrong. Can you send me some photos to logicalplanet3d Gmail.com
This seems amazing, however please help me understand:
Thanks!
Hi, sorry for the slow response... Message lengths are restricted here so I will send a couple of replies with my comments for you. 1. Yes, you can restrict the outflow of air to retain more of the heat energy within the machine. Of course, if you do not let any air out, the VOCs will remain inside the machine.
But if you choose to do that, (to increase your chamber temperature) then VOCs trapped in the machine is concession to be made. However, a better approach is to use the variable flow valve to restrict the air out but not stop it. In a best case scenario you are venting out but with reduced volume to keep your chamber hot enough but still escaping the VOCs.
Your design looks fantastic! Would this system be compatible with this? https://www.printables.com/model/557492-v2-vented-remix-updated-bambu-lab-ultimate-p1p-p1s
I think (emphasis on think) it will work. But a modified frame is needed. I already modified the frame for a riser. I will dig that up and refresh my memory about it. Then let you know with a message back here.
Sorry to ask a stupid question but how to you move the air? Do you use the square fan you posted earlier at the end of the round hose? Sorry but I don’t understand: where to place a fan / which fan to use? I will be venting out of a window with the pipe “hanging” out the window when I need to print. I appreciate your kind response 👍
No need to apologize; it is a good question. I have had a difficult time documenting everything, so it can be hard to find the answers amongst all my postings. But the short answer is yes, I use the small square fan with the adapters that I made and posted here... https://than.gs/m/1206813
Check that out, and if you have questions, let me know. And, or if you need help creating a system for the window, we can explore that too. I am happy to try to help.
What do you use for ironing settings?
Hmmm, actually now I can not remember why I would have indicated ironing for these parts. It seems like a bad idea to me at the moment because of the extra time required. There are no critical surfaces that I can recall so perhaps I made a mistake indicating ironing. I would suggest ironing off unless you find a part that has an issue. But to answer your question, I usually use... ZigZag, 0.1mm spacing, 10% flow, 0.38mm inset, 26mm/s speed.
Thank you for sharing this. I'm just getting into 3D printing and starting looking for a ventilation system after making a few parts in ABS. I just wish the hose hook up came from the bottom, then it would be perfect for my situation. That will be a blender project after I get a bit better with it. Will the fresh air coming in mess with the temps at all?
The machines always pull in fresh air from the room when they blow out the internal air. So nothing is really changing there. But yes, it can. So some people use my design to recirculate the air from the fan port back up to the vent on the frame. You can do this by installing my variable control valve on the exhaust hose which effectively can close the line and therefore the air coming out of the machine goes back into the machine. This can help to raise the internal temperature.
Hi, this looks like a great design but Im curious how it works with an AMS riser. I was going to print the popular AMS riser v2 but it might interfere with the top vent https://makerworld.com/en/models/133452
I'm a home user so I don't need a complete exhaust system like yours, but I really like that you draw air from the vent and the top. Havent seen any one else do that!
Hi, honestly, I have no experience with the riser. So kind of need someone to try it and see. I have had a few people ask but no feedback yet.
I love this design. I printed it up and tried it out with my AMS, but they are not compatible together. I suggest moving the closest portion of the manifold out an additional 10mm in order to provide the AMS clearance needed. 8mm would do it, but 10mm is ideal. The manifold angle seems perfect, so I wouldn't suggest creating the clearance by increasing the angle and making it come out more perpendicular. The best approach would be move the whole plane 10mm. I hope this helps. Thank you!
Just realizing that I miswrote my first comment. It is the AMS riser many people commonly use that is hitting it. Although maybe a riser is no longer needed for PLA now that it's properly vented?
Also...on second thought, I suggest 12mm of clearance if you do make a version that has clearance for the riser. That way you're 100% certain it's going to clear it. Here's an image to show the interaction. Thank you. https://imgur.com/a/BhRuzXY
Thank you for letting me know. I will see if I can make that adjustment. What riser are you using?
Thank you so much for an excellent design. Also I was wondering what fan you would recommend to put inline for exhausting fumes and creating a negative pressure? Possibly the AC infinity series or something else?
I am using a "120mm 12VDC Axial Computer Fan with Speed Control; with 110VAC adapter", I purchased on Amazon.ca, here is the link...
https://www.amazon.ca/gp/product/B097DDJHV6/ Honestly, I thought the speed control would be nice but it is not needed. It does not pull so much air that you need to slow it down and also I have variable control valves in my system so I can control the air flow. But nonetheless this fan works well.
Sorry to ask a stupid question but how are you using the square fan you linked to with a round exhaust pipe? I will hang the exhaust pipe out a window when I need to print so I’m not sure where to position a fan or which fan to use. Thanks in advance for your help clarifying this. :)
Hi, so sorry I missed this one until now... if you are still wondering. I use the exhaust port available here... https://than.gs/m/1206813
Yes i also want to thank you for this, great design
You are welcome.
I printed the front right and left corners that are compatible with the AMS Riser V2, and noticed that although they are labeled P1S they are really only compatible with X1. The left side microSD is covered, and the air vent on the right side is raised, so the part is lifted. Looking at the top of an X1, this part looks perfect. Regardless, I love the work you have done.
Hi, thanks for the feedback. I designed it for someone else and do not use a riser but I have an X1C so i can fix those issues. Can you email me a few photos to logicalplanet3d gmail.com so that I can see what the issues are and be sure to fix them. Thank you.